Thursday, March 4, 2010

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The health care stalemate caused by Republicans playing the abortion card is pretty hypocritical. To make one political issue outweigh the greater good feels plain wrong to me. Denying people treatment for treatable conditions and diseases in the name of an optional medical procedure--that is the moral high road? Allowing families to go bankrupt to pay their medical bills and hover on the brink of starvation because someone might get an abortion? Saying NO ONE should have ANY health care reform as long as abortion is covered is Baloney-Salami in my book. I see no Christian compassion in this political posturing--posturing by wealthy white men least affected by pregnancy, planned or otherwise.

Besides, with cheaper access to birth control via universal coverage there is potential for fewer abortions.

There is NO good reason not to reform health care in this nation. Yet the people with the best insurance are screaming the loudest about letting everyone have access.

I'm no mathematician, but if a family is paying $1,000 monthly for health insurance, how would universal coverage cost more? They're already paying $12,000 a year. Convert that insurance payment to a tax payment and the cost of universal heath care is covered. Eliminate the huge profits garnered by the insurance companies and our citizens might even benefit financially from fair and decent health care.

To the current Congress, I call FAIL. Quit stalling. Start fixing. This is 50 years overdue. Start serving your constituency and quit serving the special interest groups funding your campaigns.

*Green Girl is weary of getting the politcal runaround from her elected representatives today. She wants to smack them all upside the head and shake them hard. If you'd like to see a kinder, gentler side of Green Girl, go to where she and her eco-warrior comrades are giving away prizes all week.


  1. Compassion has never been a quality I've seen touted by the Christian right.

    I applaud you for putting this into words. This nation deserves national health care.


  2. I'm with ya! health care is broken...I'm not sure what the answer should be, but both parties are sneaking in their special interests, which sucks! Why can't a bill be just a bill?!? Medicare and medicaide don't pay their bills, insurance companies pay pennies while the uninsured pay full price...costs go up to make up the difference and the cycle continues!

  3. "...posturing by wealthy white men least affected by pregnancy, planned or otherwise..."

    amen. say it like it is, woman!

  4. Amen Sista! I'm not a believer in Abortion, per se, but I get the argument and can see the logic you are presenting.

    Green Girl for Congress? 20xx? Perhaps you should think about it. :)

  5. Yout tone is assured but gentle. Thanks.

    That said, i do think the easy reliance on cultural memes will continue to drive people in our nation apart. They cheapen our view of each other, they present in one dimensional fashion what which is complex.

    What memes?

    wealthy white men, ignorant desire for health care that maintains the federal status quo towards abortion; presentation of false choices: this reform package or nothing; huge profits of insurance companies, etc.

    --And the first comment regarding never seeing compassion from the Christian right.

    All this just puts all of us in a nice little box. We can do better. To be honest, I didn't vote for our commander in chief but the end of partisan rancor was a delightful vision. My former neighbor is one of the most soft spoken Christians you'll ever meet--she uncharacteristically put up a political sign in her front yard this past election in a sea of Obama signs. The next day her immediate neighbors called her a racist and refused to acknowledge her children.

    My point to this digression is this, lets give each other a bit of respect and acknowledge that, while we may disagree with eachother, we both may have very significant thoughts and reasons behind what we believe.

    I'm pro-life, but i spend much time learning the thoughts of the most ardent pro-choicers. I disagree, but I struggle to understand their position.

    When you say you cannot understand how people can hold up health care because of abortion, please remember that there are very strong, and i think very sophisticated and persuasive reasons why this is so. Read Arkes or Beckwith or Wesley Smith or Robert P. George. The latter was unanimously given tenure at Princeton even though his right leaning convictions stuck out like a sore thumb. He was, however, acknowledged as a great thinker and a seeker of truth.

    Our understanding of the beauty of the human person is a profound cornerstone on which to build a culture. Embryologists agree unanimously that life begins at conception.

    One could say, to counter, that acknowledgment of life is different than acknowledging a human being which should be accorded full recognition or full rights.

    To this, one must ask: does one require a certain feature or ability to be considered a human being worthy of value? Must one think to a certain degree, or be so long or so tall, or be viable outside the womb even if dependent on mother?

    The point is, as Abraham Lincoln pointed out to Mr. Douglas some odd years ago, when compared to others we all are lacking in some regard. If we begin to judge according to accidental properties (accidental in the philosophical sense, properties that are not essential to our nature), we are comprising our understanding of human nature itself. And if we build much needed reform on a defective view of human nature, we have fashioned a bone with a profound hairline fracture.

    Would we pass healthcare that had a compromised view of the full humanity of a black person? Or a disabled person? Why are we totally dismayed when earnest people are reluctant to pass healthcare that compromises the humanity of the youngest, most vulnerable among us?

    To be honest, I'm a rather pathetic excuse for a Christian. But I really try to hear others, even the voices i disagree with and am inclined to restrict to straw men in my imagination. I'll continue to strive to establish honest dialogue with my brothers and sisters. And I consider both of you in that camp. I hope that is ok.

  6. Anonymous, I wish you weren't anonymous, but you are so there you go.
    On the issue of passing this bill, let's look at history. We created our democracy by initially singling out poor people, black people and female people. What we have today has evolved a lot since 1777.
    Perhaps it is immoral to accept partial morality to get national health care. But the reality is that abortion is a legal medical procedure in this country. There are ways to make abortion illegal that do not have to affect health care coverage.

    Let's stick to the bigger issue: Health Care.
    Follow the money trail and you'll see how Congress votes--that's not to say there aren't compassionate wealthy white men--but I argue it's no coincidence that people are voting for or against this bill based on the special interest groups funding their campaigns. And it's a darn hard thing to sympathize with people lacking when you have plenty. I never said that the Christian right isn't compassionate. I never mentioned the Christian right--specifically. Because I have Christian faith I called Christian compassion into question--not any political movement or group.
    I do appreciate your long and thoughtful response, however.

  7. Awesome post, and excellent comments. I love, love, love the health system here in the UK. My grandmother is well taken care of, and if any of us suddenly get a terrible disease, we will be taken care of as well. It makes me feel like 'everything's going to be okay', y'know?

    And P.S... when I went to the doctor and said that the pill was making me sick, and I was through having kids? She counselled me, and then I had another counselling session, and now I'm going to 'tie my tubes', all on National Health. It would be an expensive procedure anywhere else, but it's free here. And it means that I (hopefully) will never have to THINK about having an abortion. How about THAT?

  8. "anonymous" clearly did not read the disclaimer at the top of the page! *heehee!*

    You can't have it both ways, anonymous: you claim you don't want to be "put in a nice little box" and then you say, "I'm pro-life", thereby hopping right into the box on your own. Good citizen!
    ::gives cookie::
    ::pats anonymous on the head::

    I'm happy to be in individual. This America is made up of individuals, and I really like it that way.

  9. Truer words were never spoken. I couldn't agree with you more.

    I feel so fortunate that my family has insurance and can't imagine what our lives would be like without it. Even with insurance, however, we still have medical expenses that are simply not affordable for a lot of people. Things like glasses for my daughter who has progressive myopia with 20/400 (and worsening) vision. She cannot see without her glasses. The cost of an eye exam and basic frames with her specialized bifocals? $400 AFTER insurance.

    I'm not even going to get into the hoops I now have to jump through just to get the same birth control that I've used for years. Apparently, it is a dangerous substance and I cannot be trusted with it.

  10. Dear hope505,

    With a large helping of hubris, and just a dash of elitist sarcasm, you've more than proven my point. Thanks much.

    You see, the charitable reading--apply suspended disbelief if needed--would have been to examine my list of memes in order to arrive at my contextual meaning of "neat little box." Had you done that, again a not so difficult task, you would have found that i was seizing on shallow stereotypes that fail to speak to the multitude of layers in our positions.

    That said, I wouldn't identify the label 'pro-life' as shallow or stereotypical, so, you're wrong.


    Green Girl, as for the compassion comment, it was kindly directed to the first commenter.

    And I think you are totally right about the money trail. Planned Parenthood stands to gain 1 billion dollars in additional funding should this bill pass; And Andy Stern, head of the SEIU, has admitted that they have spent 150 million dollars on advocating for this legislation.

    And the irony is that if this bill passes, Bart Stupak will be vilified. As a pro-life democrat he has admitted he is unwelcomed by democrats and looked upon with great suspicion by Republicans. He's a man in limbo, sort of like a Jamaican bobsledder.

    So, as Nancy Pelosi tells the public that no federal monies will be spent on abortion, Mr. Stupak gets on Hardball and rattles of the pages of the Senate bill that refute her claim. It's simply a matter of honesty.

    And if i were an adamant supporter of this plan, I would be livid as hell at the fact that they are willing to jettison it's passage by refusing to drop the provisions that the critically important 11 or 12 dems have a problem with, and which the majority of Americans surely have a problem with.

    Stupak said that if they changed these few provisions, the bill could pass. But, alas, they won't. It goes back to the special interest thing again.


  11. Sing it, Sister!! Let's send the links to our blogs to our Reps. and Senators. They can read the posts AND the comments.

  12. I am so sick of this it's not funny. The Dems should have rammed the thing through back when they had the votes. All this conciliatory bs has accomplished nothing but making the bill weaker and weaker.

  13. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! It used to drive me ape-sh!t nuts (back in the day when I was doing employee benefits work) that birth control pills weren't covered by our policy, but pregnancy was. So, people who couldn't afford birth control without insurance were having babies that they couldn't support - but hey, those bills were covered.

  14. I am so tired of it all. It has nothing to do with the people any more...only to do with what party you are affiliated with and it all disgusts me.

  15. I think it's a sad thing that we don't have at least basic services for everyone: both medical and dental - like shots and checkups.

  16. Coming from The Netherlands where health care is affordable, accessible, and insurance is not an employer's responsibility, the US health care system is probably what has shocked me most when I moved here.

    I think it is a disgrace that a third of the population (100 million people!) of one of the wealthiest countries in the world is not or under insured.

    I do not like complaining about my new country because I made a conscious choice to move here, but I truly believe the US can do better in this respect. Should do better.

    100,000,000 people need and deserve access to affordable health care. Isn't that reason enough to pass this bill, imperfect as it may be?

  17. i'm so tired of it. i wish there was a way to take away insurance from these people who just. don't. get. it. that there are millions of americans going without

  18. Alles richtig so

  19. I figure simply removing abortion (which ought to be less of an issue with birth control options readily available under expanded health care) from otherwise universal healthcare is not an unreasonable thing. I'm sick of the posturing from both extremes on the political spectrum.

  20. Hi, Green Girl - Well, lets just say I agree wholeheartedly with your last statement, about the lot of them, the wingnuts on both sides, and the runaround. I pretty much stand with the sentiments of the commenter just before me.

    Not that people are cars, but I really don't see that we can't operate the system much like the mandatory liability insurance most states require for driving. Competition across state lines, a variety of coverages, an SR22 pool for those who might have contributed to their own demise, and Medi-whatever for those who truly do suffer with pec's that render them essentially uninsurable.

    While I have huge philosophical arguments w/the abortion component, my main gripe is the illusion that it all has to be so complicated. Talk about posturing and the run-around. Enough, people.

  21. I live and breath the business of healthcare every day. Does it need reform? YES. Are insurance companies profiting too much? YES. Is more gov't and universal HC the answer? Absolutely NOT. I'm sick of the political posturing from both side of the aisle and the road blocks. I personally cannot stand Nancy Pelosi. Our elected officials are not listening because they are too afraid of losing their jobs. I'm looking forward to re-election time. They want to ram a HC reform bill that the nation cannot pay for. And our elected officials cannot even tell you what was in those earlier HC bills. How will we pay for the extra 15 million people to have univeral HC? One solution would be tort reform (I'm not an atty). That would help pay for them, but the attorney special interest group is too strong. With the bills that have been introduced, you will be paying a LOT more taxes and I personally feel I pay enough of my fair share, especially living in WI. WI is an extremely high tax state when you combine real estate taxes, income taxes, and sales tax. We have one of the best Medicaid plans in the country so I am supporting enough people at the moment thank you very much. I can't stand it when I hear a patient say, "I can't afford to pay that $20 co pay, but they have a pack of cigarettes in their purse. PLEAAASE! You can afford your 2 pack a day habit! Stop smoking and your HC bills will decrease. I'm also sick of supporting people who don't take care of themselves due to lifestyle choices and excesses which includes the smoker who gets lung cancer and is on gov't insurance that I get to pay for!!! All of you who want this bill so badly better not be whining in 2011, 2012, and beyond when your taxes go UP to pay for all of it! I'm also concerned with my access to HC in the future. Medical school enrollment is down, the bright students are shying away from HC, and the doctors are telling me they will retire if some version of universal HC gets passed. From a financial standpoint and a patient standpoint it is all very scary.

    Now I have to go run the stairs in my office to lower my blood pressure!


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